(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600] PW[Go Intellect]PB[Mogo]DT[2009-05-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[GoInt19n [-\]: GTP Engine for GoInt19n (white): GoIntellect version 8.0 Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (black): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play until the end :'( (very rare cases) ]RE[B+Time] ;B[pd]BL[3590.387] ;W[cc]WL[3563.036] ;B[dp]BL[3590.095] ;W[cp]WL[3526.032] ;B[pp]BL[3589.794] ;W[jc]WL[3488.756] ;B[cq]BL[3572.094] ;W[nq]WL[3449.596] ;B[lq]BL[3552.76] ;W[md]WL[3412.701] ;B[np]BL[3532.463] ;W[dj]WL[3375.508] ;B[co]BL[3511.178] ;W[mq]WL[3335.852] ;B[mp]BL[3489.021] ;W[pr]WL[3299.107] ;B[oq]BL[3465.413] ;W[gc]WL[3258.69] ;B[jj]BL[3440.988] ;W[qh]WL[3222.402] ;B[qk]BL[3415.295] ;W[or]WL[3186.243] ;B[lr]BL[3389.086] ;W[qc]WL[3150.174] ;B[qd]BL[3361.67] ;W[qq]WL[3113.78] ;B[pc]BL[3332.58] ;W[qp]WL[3077.688] ;B[qo]BL[3302.191] ;W[nr]WL[3040.671] ;B[oh]BL[3270.607] ;W[pi]WL[3004.585] ;B[ro]BL[3237.635] ;W[pf]WL[2969.155] ;B[oi]BL[3203.83] ;W[lp]WL[2934.142] ;B[kp]BL[3168.999] ;W[lo]WL[2898.475] ;B[mn]BL[3132.716] ;W[pj]WL[2862.751] ;B[kn]BL[3095.339] ;W[pk]WL[2826.949] ;B[pl]BL[3056.851] ;W[ol]WL[2791.319] ;B[rr]BL[3017.185] ;W[rp]WL[2754.906] ;B[ql]BL[2976.201] ;W[nf]WL[2719.673] ;B[lh]BL[2933.869] ;W[ko]WL[2685.323] ;B[jo]BL[2891.778] ;W[jp]WL[2647.386] ;B[kq]BL[2847.636] ;W[io]WL[2610.718] ;B[jn]BL[2802.555] ;W[iq]WL[2576.47] ;B[rf]BL[2755.686] ;W[rb]WL[2541.598] ;B[qg]BL[2708.386] ;W[pg]WL[2507.31] ;B[ph]BL[2659.586] ;W[rd]WL[2472.779] ;B[qb]BL[2609.953] ;W[rc]WL[2436.821] ;B[qi]BL[2558.562] ;W[rh]WL[2400.564] ;B[ri]BL[2506.227] ;W[re]WL[2366.093] ;B[qe]BL[2453.077] ;W[qf]WL[2331.856] ;B[rg]BL[2397.042] ;W[sh]WL[2298.398] ;B[si]BL[2340.661] ;W[gp]WL[2263.253] ;B[pb]BL[2282.787] ;W[mb]WL[2229.139] ;B[sp]BL[2224.634] ;W[sq]WL[2194.076] ;B[fj]BL[2165.205] ;W[ra]WL[2159.514] ;B[cl]BL[2105.804] ;W[in]WL[2127.97] ;B[fh]BL[2046.461] ;W[dg]WL[2096.471] ;B[il]BL[1987.542] ;W[on]WL[2064.998] ;B[fn]BL[1927.903] ;W[fq]WL[2032.629]C[mstarsup5 [-\]: time to go for T18? ] ;B[me]BL[1868.898] ;W[mf]WL[2000.862] ;B[oe]BL[1810.597] ;W[ne]WL[1967.68] ;B[of]BL[1752.46] ;W[dr]WL[1936.203] ;B[dh]BL[1695.16] ;W[eg]WL[1905.661] ;B[cg]BL[1639.767] ;W[ch]WL[1873.694] ;B[ci]BL[1587.593] ;W[bh]WL[1843.167] ;B[di]BL[1536.136] ;W[cf]WL[1812.629] ;B[ln]BL[1486.054] ;W[so]WL[1782.873] ;B[kf]BL[1436.306] ;W[po]WL[1752.18] ;B[rm]BL[1389.533] ;W[cr]WL[1721.117] ;B[le]BL[1342.317] ;W[nj]WL[1691.215] ;B[nd]BL[1298.005] ;W[pm]WL[1659.741] ;B[ok]BL[1255.149] ;W[oj]WL[1628.908] ;B[nk]BL[1213.794] ;W[rn]WL[1596.848] ;B[qn]BL[1174.103] ;W[qm]WL[1564.452] ;B[sn]BL[1135.254] ;W[nl]WL[1528.52] ;B[mk]BL[1097.945] ;W[ml]WL[1494.955] ;B[rk]BL[1060.427] ;W[lk]WL[1464.809] ;B[mj]BL[1025.007] ;W[nc]WL[1434.296] ;B[od]BL[990.389] ;W[im]WL[1400.993] ;B[jl]BL[956.955] ;W[jm]WL[1373.605] ;B[km]BL[925.176] ;W[kl]WL[1345.293] ;B[jr]BL[894.159] ;W[lg]WL[1315.828] ;B[ki]BL[863.83] ;W[bp]WL[1287.221] ;B[kg]BL[834.382] ;W[bo]WL[1257.972] ;B[do]BL[804.969] ;W[ir]WL[1232.044] ;B[sp]BL[777.044] ;W[dq]WL[1201.726] ;B[lc]BL[750.764] ;W[pn]WL[1173.378] ;B[fl]BL[724.359] ;W[so]WL[1144.44] ;B[rn]BL[699.03] ;W[js]WL[1117.759] ;B[ks]BL[675.345] ;W[is]WL[1090.467] ;B[jq]BL[651.681] ;W[ld]WL[1065.565] ;B[mc]BL[628.821] ;W[kd]WL[1037.485] ;B[nb]BL[607.214] ;W[lb]WL[1011.108] ;B[pe]BL[586.045] ;W[ke]WL[986.601] ;B[lf]BL[565.612] ;W[kc]WL[962.369] ;B[sb]BL[545.936] ;W[se]WL[937.67] ;B[sc]BL[527.151] ;W[if]WL[913.479] ;B[cj]BL[508.713] ;W[bm]WL[889.848] ;B[op]BL[491.177] ;W[hg]WL[863.388] ;B[cm]BL[473.182] ;W[ip]WL[839.717] ;B[hj]BL[456.29] ;W[gh]WL[816.75] ;B[fg]BL[440.327] ;W[ff]WL[794.26] ;B[nn]BL[424.455] ;W[qs]WL[767.721] ;B[cn]BL[409.367] ;W[bn]WL[743.641] ;B[gg]BL[394.788] ;W[gf]WL[721.768] ;B[og]BL[381.016] ;W[gm]WL[697.556] ;B[fm]BL[366.85] ;W[eh]WL[676.078] ;B[fi]BL[354.052] ;W[ei]WL[655.158] ;B[ej]BL[341.809] ;W[ms]WL[633.407] ;B[ck]BL[329.173] ;W[df]WL[611.493] ;B[oc]BL[317.373] ;W[ii]WL[591.735] ;B[ij]BL[305.512] ;W[ls]WL[570.706] ;B[oo]BL[294.571] ;W[lj]WL[549.82] ;B[mi]BL[283.931] ;W[mo]WL[540.517] ;B[no]BL[273.979] ;W[om]WL[528.873] ;B[lo]BL[264.011] ;W[hi]WL[515.683] ;B[ni]BL[254.19] ;W[mc]WL[505.213] ;B[sp]BL[244.886] ;W[rq]WL[501.986] ;B[hl]BL[235.732] ;W[hm]WL[498.557] ;B[mg]BL[226.424] ;W[gl]WL[496.215] ;B[gk]BL[217.505] ;W[gi]WL[494.341] ;B[kr]BL[209.715] ;W[na]WL[492.291] ;B[ob]BL[201.536] ;W[ep]WL[491.405] ;B[bi]BL[193.448] ;W[bg]WL[488.748] ;B[gn]BL[185.545]C[goIngo [-\]: Hello, what does MoGo evaluation say here? goIngo [-\]: How do (the) experts judge this position? mstarsup5 [-\]: B wins mstarsup5 [-\]: he's ahead and he can't lose points at this point anymore mstarsup5 [-\]: (almost no yose left either) goIngo [-\]: hmm, on which part of the board is SE going wrong? mstarsup5 [-\]: (at least that's what i think :-) ) mstarsup5 [-\]: SE sucks when it's in chinese rules mstarsup5 [-\]: it counts the white dead stones as points for white also goIngo [-\]: I see, thx mstarsup5 [-\]: if you want to have a "relevant" score, view the game offline, check "options" and then put the japanese rules mstarsup5 [-\]: then use SE :-) GoInt19n [-\]: GTP Engine for GoInt19n (white): GoIntellect version 8.0 ] ;W[jf]WL[465.397]C[Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (black): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play until the end :'( (very rare cases) ] ;B[jg]BL[178.571] ;W[ig]WL[449.129] ;B[pq]BL[172.064]C[jbh17 [-\]: mogo estimates his winrate 99% ] ;W[qr]WL[429.811] ;B[mr]BL[165.209] ;W[ns]WL[411.951] ;B[gq]BL[158.565] ;W[ma]WL[394.715] ;B[ng]BL[152.346] ;W[br]WL[379.515] ;B[eo]BL[145.885] ;W[go]WL[363.838] ;B[hn]BL[140.01] ;W[ji]WL[348.645] ;B[kj]BL[134.555] ;W[oa]WL[330.274] ;B[pa]BL[129.106] ;W[so]WL[314.898] ;B[qj]BL[124.036] ;W[ag]WL[295.827] ;B[bl]BL[119.097] ;W[fp]WL[281.878] ;B[cd]BL[114.063] ;W[bb]WL[267.446] ;B[bd]BL[109.828]C[goIngo [-\]: thx. jbh ] ;W[dc]WL[253.771] ;B[fc]BL[105.129] ;W[fb]WL[239.553] ;B[ec]BL[100.98] ;W[eb]WL[224.355] ;B[gb]BL[96.697] ;W[db]WL[210.242] ;B[hc]BL[93.188] ;W[gd]WL[209.531] ;B[hb]BL[88.975] ;W[ga]WL[196.131] ;B[ha]BL[85.15]C[goIngo [-\]: thx mstarsup5 for the SE-trick ] ;W[ka]WL[182.693] ;B[gr]BL[81.888] ;W[fa]WL[169.158] ;B[hd]BL[78.371] ;W[fd]WL[155.544] ;B[jh]BL[75.225] ;W[ih]WL[142.632] ;B[ed]BL[71.704] ;W[he]WL[129.894] ;B[fe]BL[68.39] ;W[ge]WL[128.678] ;B[ee]BL[65.752] ;W[ef]WL[116.007] ;B[dd]BL[63.487] ;W[bf]WL[102.525] ;B[bc]BL[60.645] ;W[ab]WL[89.46] ;B[dk]BL[57.702]C[mstarsup5 [-\]: welcome ] ;W[cb]WL[77.298] ;B[ac]BL[56.935] ;W[id]WL[66.307] ;B[kk]BL[56.033] ;W[sp]WL[53.985] ;B[sr]BL[55.089] ;W[rs]WL[42.312] ;B[ll]BL[54.131] ;W[rl]WL[28.071] ;B[sl]BL[53.064]C[mstarsup5 [-\]: ah also don't trust SE, no matter what the rule is when there's a seki. Again, it counts all the stones in the seki as point, don't ask me why it's like this :-) ] ;W[ho]WL[16.895] ;B[fr]BL[52.464] ;W[er]WL[4.624] ;B[nm]BL[51.292])