(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600] PW[Zen19CO]PB[Mogo]DT[2009-05-14]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19CO [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19CO (white): Zen version 3.0 Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (black): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play until the end :'( (very rare cases) ]RE[B+Resign] ;B[pd]BL[3593.496] ;W[dd]WL[3599.714] ;B[pp]BL[3593.213] ;W[dp]WL[3599.362] ;B[pj]BL[3575.7] ;W[nc]WL[3599.098] ;B[lc]BL[3557.303] ;W[qc]WL[3598.817] ;B[pc]BL[3538.413]C[chiaping [?\]: luck for both ] ;W[pb]WL[3565.727] ;B[ob]BL[3517.347] ;W[qd]WL[3548.778] ;B[pe]BL[3495.566] ;W[qf]WL[3515.222] ;B[pf]BL[3472.69] ;W[qg]WL[3481.953] ;B[pg]BL[3449.156] ;W[qh]WL[3422.843] ;B[ho]BL[3423.97]C[chiaping [?\]: Black gradually grow in strength ] ;W[jq]WL[3374.453] ;B[gq]BL[3397.915] ;W[eq]WL[3341.449] ;B[jo]BL[3370.887] ;W[kg]WL[3309.153] ;B[mq]BL[3342.85] ;W[ph]WL[3277.245]C[chiaping [?\]: Black' gaisei be broken ] ;B[ic]BL[3313.374] ;W[jd]WL[3219.94] ;B[jc]BL[3283.535] ;W[kd]WL[3186.75] ;B[kc]BL[3252.281] ;W[nb]WL[3141.419] ;B[qb]BL[3219.627] ;W[rb]WL[3110.121] ;B[oh]BL[3185.312] ;W[oi]WL[3078.58] ;B[nh]BL[3149.928] ;W[qa]WL[3055.14] ;B[nj]BL[3114.016] ;W[pi]WL[3021.237] ;B[ni]BL[3076.295] ;W[oj]WL[2990.574] ;B[ok]BL[3037.675] ;W[cl]WL[2959.463] ;B[hg]BL[2998.181] ;W[ih]WL[2917.869] ;B[hh]BL[2957.143] ;W[he]WL[2887.64] ;B[hi]BL[2915.284] ;W[fc]WL[2855.108] ;B[gd]BL[2872.418] ;W[gf]WL[2819.468] ;B[fd]BL[2829.059]C[goIngo [-\]: How do the programs evaluate this position? ] ;W[ed]WL[2775.052] ;B[gc]BL[2783.169] ;W[fe]WL[2744.203] ;B[ge]BL[2737.234] ;W[hf]WL[2714.737] ;B[ff]BL[2689.666] ;W[ee]WL[2703.105]C[chiaping [?\]: pattern match or tree search ] ;B[eg]BL[2641.662] ;W[fg]WL[2673.741]C[goIngo [-\]: I mean, which percentages/winning probabilities ] ;B[ef]BL[2592.964] ;W[eh]WL[2662.354]C[nuBO [2k\]: it seems zen didnt get better from v.2.7 chiaping [?\]: triple hane chiaping [?\]: GOOD MOVE ] ;B[dh]BL[2542.499] ;W[fh]WL[2630.518] ;B[cg]BL[2490.739] ;W[fb]WL[2598.638] ;B[ig]BL[2437.295] ;W[gg]WL[2569.619] ;B[dj]BL[2382.079] ;W[gj]WL[2524.47]C[RemiCoulom [4k?\]: Is Mogo's top group alive ? ] ;B[dl]BL[2326.251]C[goIngo [-\]: Zen will have to kill it to keep its chances intact chiaping [?\]: :D ] ;W[dm]WL[2486.003]C[chiaping [?\]: exciting ] ;B[id]BL[2268.574]C[goIngo [-\]: hmm, mogo seems to be listening ;-) ] ;W[jf]WL[2457.564] ;B[hj]BL[2210.566] ;W[hk]WL[2411.856]C[RemiCoulom [4k?\]: It still looks dead. ] ;B[ik]BL[2152.51] ;W[gk]WL[2401.374] ;B[el]BL[2094.518] ;W[il]WL[2390.645]C[Chilltime [3k\]: looks like a hard game for w chiaping [?\]: myabe playing chess ] ;B[jk]BL[2036.742] ;W[hm]WL[2379.823]C[chiaping [?\]: -->RemiCoulom nuBO [2k\]: b bottom is too loose ibd [13k\]: ? ] ;B[em]BL[1978.22] ;W[me]WL[2352.636]C[nuBO [2k\]: killing time ] ;B[cc]BL[1919.372] ;W[cd]WL[2323.625] ;B[cm]BL[1861.569]C[RemiCoulom [4k?\]: bottom right looks bigger. ] ;W[jl]WL[2276.163] ;B[kk]BL[1802.515] ;W[hb]WL[2265.215] ;B[gb]BL[1745.102] ;W[ga]WL[2253.936]C[ibd [13k\]: e17? ] ;B[db]BL[1688.822] ;W[bc]WL[2226.675]C[RemiCoulom [4k?\]: e18 d17 ] ;B[bb]BL[1634.89] ;W[dc]WL[2202.95] ;B[cb]BL[1582.342] ;W[be]WL[2175.865]C[chiaping [?\]: E18 E17 E19 F19 ] ;B[eb]BL[1531.532]C[chiaping [?\]: and A18 Black alive ] ;W[ec]WL[2148.566]C[Lew [2d\]: a17 is better, will white play ko? Chilltime [3k\]: bad result for w isnt it? Lew [2d\]: black isnt alive yet (J17) ] ;B[ac]BL[1481.356] ;W[cf]WL[2121.83]C[Chilltime [3k\]: uh white isn alive either ? ] ;B[bg]BL[1434.61] ;W[bd]WL[2111.34]C[Chilltime [3k\]: h18 looked b a Chilltime [3k\]: bad ] ;B[fi]BL[1387.377] ;W[ei]WL[2081.905]C[juhop [1d\]: pretty complicated chiaping [?\]: O.o ] ;B[ea]BL[1342.259] ;W[fa]WL[2055.169] ;B[md]BL[1297.9] ;W[nd]WL[2028.823] ;B[ne]BL[1256.012] ;W[ld]WL[2018.769] ;B[mc]BL[1215.592] ;W[nf]WL[1990.04] ;B[le]BL[1175.927]C[chiaping [?\]: white slip up ] ;W[hc]WL[1962.247] ;B[hd]BL[1137.757])