(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
PW[Mogo]PB[Yogo]DT[2009-05-13]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[yogobot [-\]: GTP Engine for yogobot (black): Yogo version 3.1
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play until the end :'( (very rare cases)
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[ee]BL[1799.386]
;W[ec]WL[1799.699]
;B[fc]BL[1799.003]
;W[eg]WL[1799.435]
;B[ed]BL[1798.67]
;W[dc]WL[1799.044]
;B[fb]BL[1798.298]
;W[cg]WL[1606.952]
;B[cd]BL[1750.846]C[ibd [13k\]: hi all
ibd [13k\]: is there a website that lists the computer olympiad games?
ibd [13k\]: I mean the sgfs/results
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;W[ff]WL[1425.224]C[IvanPerez2 [?\]: yes
IvanPerez2 [?\]: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tournament.php?id=194
IvanPerez2 [?\]: for go 9x9
ibd [13k\]: thanks
ibd [13k\]: wow, fuego first
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;B[cf]BL[1704.339]C[gogonuts [4d\]: pretty strctly ordered results
gogonuts [4d\]: yogobot got a promising opening here
gogonuts [4d\]: this game could decide things for fuego
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;W[df]WL[1266.263]C[gogonuts [4d\]: g5?
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;B[he]BL[1658.806]C[gogonuts [4d\]: h5 was best
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;W[ce]WL[1123.969]C[ibd [13k\]: ?
ibd [13k\]: do you mean better than g5?
gogonuts [4d\]: because it has a better continuation
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;B[be]BL[1614.188]
;W[bf]WL[998.502]C[xiefan [?\]: winning rate of yogo is 37.5% now
]
;B[bc]BL[1570.521]C[gogonuts [4d\]: its working hard in this game :-)
ibd [13k\]: how strong are these bots on 9x9?
ibd [13k\]: dan+?
MaLa [1d\]: mogo is dan+, yep, yogo i don't know
ibd [13k\]: isn't it quite close on 9x9?
]
;W[de]WL[886.979]C[ibd [13k\]: because it seems to be dominated by MC bots
]
;B[dd]BL[1527.806]C[gogonuts [4d\]: it seems to be difficult to play "obvious" moves quickly
ibd [13k\]: yeah, or too risky
ibd [13k\]: because it's hard to define "obvious"
gogonuts [4d\]: obviously
MaLa [1d\]: maybe those obvious moves are a human weakness? ^^
]
;W[hf]WL[788.291]C[gogonuts [4d\]: there are a human shortcut
gogonuts [4d\]: someties a human pitfall
ibd [13k\]: maybe... sometimes the obvious response is a trap
MaLa [1d\]: because humans often believe in "obvious moves" and there might be a better forcing somewhere else before ^^
]
;B[gf]BL[1486.025]C[ibd [13k\]: looks like mogo ahead
gogonuts [4d\]: g4 is a zinger
ibd [13k\]: zinger?
]
;W[gg]WL[701.585]C[gogonuts [4d\]: the word defines itself :-)
]
;B[ge]BL[1445.197]C[ibd [13k\]: ...
gogonuts [4d\]: wikipedia: A surprising or unusually pointed or telling remark
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;W[hg]WL[622.657]C[ibd [13k\]: a4 or e4? :)
]
;B[ef]BL[1405.291]C[chiaping [?\]: A5
gogonuts [4d\]: yup
ibd [13k\]: e4 is sente-ish, no?
gogonuts [4d\]: nope
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;W[ae]WL[551.243]C[gogonuts [4d\]: it makes w f5 gote, but isnt sente itself
ibd [13k\]: but also a6 sente
chiaping [?\]: ko?
]
;B[if]BL[1366.287]C[chiaping [?\]: lose
gogonuts [4d\]: yup
]
;W[bd]WL[488.599]C[MaLa [1d\]: hm?
ibd [13k\]: I think b lost with 0.5 with b6
MaLa [1d\]: white had any threat?
Bodano [1d\]: Did the games on 19*19 already start?
xiefan [?\]: losing is the same for MC Gos
]
;B[ig]BL[1328.254]C[xiefan [?\]: no matter more or less
MaLa [1d\]: @gogo ? 
gogonuts [4d\]: e4 at a5 would have been biggest, but mogo would have won by about 2.5
MaLa [1d\]: what was the problem with that ko?
MaLa [1d\]: black had one threat... white none, or am i completly stupid? ^^
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;W[ih]WL[433.134]C[ibd [13k\]: is the ko useful at all?
gogonuts [4d\]: w ignores f5
MaLa [1d\]: not f5
MaLa [1d\]: f3
MaLa [1d\]: ...
gogonuts [4d\]: finishes the top left
ibd [13k\]: gg
gogonuts [4d\]: then wins the ko around f3
MaLa [1d\]: what ko?
gogonuts [4d\]: ah, your right
gogonuts [4d\]: b threatens at f3 not f5
MaLa [1d\]: f3, white ignores, F2
MaLa [1d\]: then corner is dead
MaLa [1d\]: and B8 is not as big
gogonuts [4d\]: i just played it out 
gogonuts [4d\]: winning the ko still loses
MaLa [1d\]: yeah, just noticed
MaLa [1d\]: :(
gogonuts [4d\]: funny how b seemed to have a good fuseki
gogonuts [4d\]: but the komi just got to be a too big burden
MaLa [1d\]: are there already stats for this year?
MaLa [1d\]: white/black win/loss?
gogonuts [4d\]: looking back, w f4 was strong
gogonuts [4d\]: and d4
gogonuts [4d\]: those moves looked slow, but they were very good at putting up a miai
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